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TORTURE, American Style

I assume that everyone understands the politics of the torture debate. The Democrats see an opportunity to seize the moral high ground by comparing Republican wickedness with Democratic sensitivity and humanity. The hardcore left sees the torture issue as another weapon with which to condemn the War of Terror, along with profiling, wiretapping, border security, rendition, military commissions, Gitmo detention, bombs, bullets and weapons in general.

Generally, they detest anything that compromises the moral purity of the United States. Never mind that leftward writings on American history typically assert that American history is an unbroken record of misogyny, racism, imperialism, colonialism, genocide, brutality, and capitalist exploitation. Patriots must take pleasure in their belated discovery of our precious heritage of moral grandeur.

The relevant passage in international law defines torture as any act by which "severe pain or suffering, whether physical or mental, is intentionally inflicted on a person." United States law adopts this definition in prohibiting torture. So the CIA lawyers ask the Office of Legal Council to, in effect, define "severe." The OLC lawyers produce a rather comical list of permissible techniques of coercion, e.g., you can bitch-slap your prisoner upside the head but you mustn’t punch him with a closed fist. These methods of coercion are delicately term "enhanced interrogation" techniques.

The liberals and leftists aren’t buying this. If they recognize any form of coercion as acceptable they have not taken the trouble to disclose it. We would be putting words into their mouths if we said they believe that interrogation must be gentle and reassuring, a form of therapy intended to relieve the prisoners of any form of stress which might constitute mental suffering. We simply don’t know what they consider suitable methods of interrogation. They decline to define.

And they are not content to condemn torture as morally indefensible. They insist on having it both ways by asserting the torture, er, "enhanced interrogation" is ineffective because the information gained is unreliable.

Sure it is. And so what? There is no form of intelligence-gathering which is guaranteed reliable. There are disinformation techniques for them all. We know that the rule in the French Resistance was that if the Gestapo took one of their operatives they had just 24-hours before he told the tale in full. It is enough to condemn the Gestapo as a pack of merciless sadists. No need to characterize them as incompetent bunglers as well.

Col. Leo Thorsness who experienced a great deal of torture in North Vietnam has some expertise on the subject and I’m inclined to accept his judgment over that of the usual agitated wind-bags. I quote: "Torture, when used by an expert, can produce useful, truthful information. I base that on my experience. I believe that during torture, there is a narrow "window of truth" as pain (often multiple kinds) is increased. Beyond that point, if torture increases, the person breaks, or dies if he continues to resist."

Thorsness and Bud Day don’t consider waterboarding torture. John McCain does. It looks like torture to me. Torture or not, Colonel Thorsness has this to say: "If I were to catch a "mad bomber" running away from an explosive I would not hesitate a second to use "enhanced interrogation," including waterboarding, if it would save lives of innocent people."

Senator Schumer (D-NY) concurs. He had this to say on tape (you will find it on the Internet) during a hearing of the senate judiciary committee on June 8th, 2004. "I think there are probably very few people in this room or in America who would say that torture should never, ever be used, particularly if thousands of lives are at stake. Take the hypothetical: If we knew that there was a nuclear bomb hidden in an American city and we believed that some kind of torture, fairly severe maybe, would give us a chance of finding that bomb before it went off, my guess is most Americans and most senators, maybe all, would say, Do what you have to do."

Advocates of American moral purity condemn this. For the sake of clarity they should specifically state how many American lives they are willing to sacrifice for their high ideals—a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand? Their unwillingness to do so exposes their moral posturing for what it is.

So what can we conclude? It will be odious and destructive to make torture a national policy. We are unwilling to deliberately sacrifice lives in defense of a legal or moral principle. Perhaps we can only hope that we have responsible officials who are willing to do the dirty at the risk of prison or dismissal when it is necessary; and that they will be allowed to get off with light sentences and their pensions.

Not a very satisfactory, much less absolutist, resolution is it? Damn, there must be some way to escape the real world.

Professor John Frary of Maine is a scholar, patriot, gourmand
and curmudgeon, as well as former US Congress candidate and retired history professor, and an associate editor of the International Military Encyclopedia. and can be reached
at: jfrary8070@aol.com

 

From the "Can this possibly be real" desk...

Martin Charges Frary with Ethics Violation



The State Ethics Commission will hold a hearing on January 29th in Augusta on an ethics charge filed by John Martin, former Speaker of the Maine House, against Republican congressional candidate John Frary on Halloween eve. The charge claims that Frary’s radio and print ad “The Three Amigos”, which linked the incumbent Mike Michaud to Governor Baldacci and Mr. Martin, was an attempt by Frary to defeat Mr. Martin in the recent election, in which he ran unopposed.

The satirical radio ad, which can be heard at www.fraryforcongress.com , stated that Martin, Baldacci and Michaud were “The Three Amigos of the North Maine Woods”, and that the policies advocated by the three men in tandem were directed at enriching themselves while “Maine’s economy burns”.

Martin, who was unopposed in his election, claims that the ad was directed, in part, at electing his opponent. Baldacci was not on the ballot, and was not a clean elections candidate in 2006. Michaud, and all federal candidates, have no clean election option.

 “This is astonishing”, said Professor Frary. “The legal advice I have received to date is that if this concerns something I did in my Congressional campaign, then the legal response is simple: the Commission has no jurisdiction over federal candidates. Black letter law. Simple and straight forward. I invite all my friends to attend the hearing. I wouldn’t miss it for the world.”

The Hearing before the State Ethics Commission will be Thursday, January 29th, at 9AM at the Public Utilities Hearing Room, 242 State Street in Augusta. It is open to the public.

 

Hear the offending radio ad for yourself:

 

Click here for a copy of the letter detailing the "charges". Astounding! Please note: the radio ad was created gratis by unpaid volunteers working for Professor Frary's campaign. Perhaps John Martin is so venal and corrupt that he cannot conceive of citizens donating their time and effort to elect an honest man to Congress. Radio stations were compensated for their air time and some, allegedly, enjoyed it!

Dear Readers,

A brief note wishing you a Happy New Year and my thanks for your support. If I did not deliver the victory we hoped for, I hope I won and retain your respect.

I recently ordered a book by Prof. Fred Kaplan, The Biography of a Writer. about the writings and speeches of President Lincoln. I am particularly struck by his judgement that in contemporary political discourse "a use of language that respects intellect, truth, and sincerity has largely been abandoned."

Just yesterday a stranger approached me in the Farmington Hannaford’s to thank me for "telling it like it is." This is happening pretty regularly and I take more pride in this than I would in an electoral victory based on evasions, mendacity and elusive promises.

I’m not claiming that there is any Gettysburg Address in me and I acknowledge that my style of writing is not to everybody’s taste. But I can claim that the style is my own, that I spoke the truth as I have understood it and that I showed respect for the intelligence of my readers.

Our contemporary political culture is taking us along the same path as the European welfare states, a path that leads to inevitable social and fiscal disaster. There is no need to debate this. Future developments will resolve the question.

I doubt that they can avoid this fate. I believe our Republic may yet succeed in steering away from it. If the State of Maine can alter its course, then so can the United States. It is clear that in 2010 flights of chickens will be coming home to roost in Augusta—along with turkeys, vultures and do-do birds. There can be few gimmicks left to shoo them away at last.

At present I am working for Lance Harvell’s victory in the special election to replace Janet Mills here in Farmington. This will not alter the balance of power in the Maine House, but a decisive win will point the way to a reversal of party fortunes two years from now.

Persistence, eternal persistence, is the lot of those determined to arrest the aggrandizement of government. The forces that drive that aggrandizement can never be extinguished.

In the end it is not a question of victory. It is a question of duty.

Again, my thanks and best wishes for a Happy New Year for you and yours,

John Frary

PS - Next week my spies will report to you on the race for governor. Stay tuned!

Northern Maine Oil Refinery

Who are

The Three Amigos?

 
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